Thanks Brendan I thought it was pretty good myself. BTW Federal Policitian Peter Garrett who is the former President of the Australian Conservation Foundation and let's not forget his band Midnight Oil was mobbed by Greens in Lygon Street the other day.
In another lifetime I worked for ACF and always used to be accused of being too corporate.
You might note that the OC is now a devotee of the NLA so it looks like I finally have him under my spell. I now await his full confession on his blogsite of course. It would be pretty funny to see Dimberley kicked out of the mansion.
He is a clown. Why do people keep thinking that entertainers make good politicians? They don't. They are good spokespeople. Do you know what a spokesperson is? It's someone who talks for an organisation. They get scripts and recite them. Then they get paid. They don't have independent thought and when they do we lambaste them.
So what if he was mobbed on Lygon street. If that is any sign of the quality of leader that you are we seriously need to get the veronicas or some random contestant from Australian idol in Govt quick smart.
Peter Garrett was a good musician, a somewhat scary dancer and a great front man for Midnight Oil. He is not a politician. If Peter Garrett is an example of the future leaders of Australia then I will move.
The bird seems too difficult. Hippies have no sense of self preservation. They would be much easier to shoot.
I mean they have no natural sense of self preservation anyway. When people turn up to cut trees down the animals LEAVE. But not hippies. They climb the trees. This isn't normal and should be stopped.
Brendan I agree with you about Peter's dancing style it was a bity and I havn't seen him dance recently so I cannot comment on his style overall. Mind you I did see a rather rude little ditty done about Bill Shorten and Beaconsfield.
The reason I referred to Peter Garrett is that I was illustrating the point that you are indeed making that entertainers do not always make the best politicians with a few noted exceptions. Again it is the advertising agency trying to promote a certain image of the Labor Party in inner city Melbourne.
Essentially, Peter Garrett was given the Federal seat which encompasses suburbs like Bondi to prevent some Labor aparachiks from winning it as the former member new that the people in Bondi and Coogee would vote for Peter. Mind you the very erudite old Gough referred to Laurie Brereton the former member as being the most uneduacted spokesman on foriegn affairs that parliament had ever seen.
In relation to independnat though I am always told that you are not allowed to have any. There are formal mechanisms and ways of approaching things. Which is why I have submitted some of my policy proposals through the national policy committee. One of these proposals has also been adopted but as I am only a mere member of the party I am very unlikley to receive any credit for it.
Now we come to the real question who does make a good politician. Well I can tell you that there are many sitting members and people wanting to be pre-selected who are not suited to the job. There are some guys out there who plan their whole careers around being pre-selected and couldn't give a damn about their constituents and the same applies to the women. People tell me that it is all about ego however, I am not sure if this is entirley correct.
Personally, I become really annoyed when poeple tell me that I have to become more involved with groups like XXXXXX List or Network. My philospohy has always been to do what I am interested in and it doesn't involve hanging out with former failed politicians or women with moustaches who want to talk about joining community groups so they can become pre- selected. It shouldn't be impossible to become pre-selected if you have a strong number crucher behind you, campaign money and a local profile.
I made a decision to become a handbag when the going became too tough for me and now I am really beginning to regret it. All of my friends keep telling me that I am just being used by the apparchiks who steal my ideas. Then again I need the apparachiks for their numbers so I can win.
Peter Garrett does not just recite scripts, he writes them as well.
Someone should shoot the kid and the Dad. They should not be allowed to procreate.
Leave hippies alone, just because they care more for a cause then they do about their own preservation does not make them abnormal. It makes them passionate.
Seriously King B after your comments about Xmas I don't trust anything you say.
As a political commentator I observe people at parties and at parliament house. One thing I have noticed is that a lot of females political groupies and politicians always put the Hon Julie Bishop down by making fun of her for being good looking and clever. Maybe some of Julie's opponenets need to smarten themselves up or get out of parliament. In my view Julie is a very astute politician and should be Deputy Leader at the very least.
I became addicted to blogging after a stint on crutches last year. No seriously I enjoy having a healthy exchange with Gord as most of my political counterparts speak to me in a terribly male patronising way. I find one of them who worked for Latham (Mad Mark) particuarly bad. BTW I think all of the members of Beyond Blue would like to be on the sort of pension Latham recieves which is reported to be approximatley 75% of his annual income as Opposition Leader. The thing I don't like about politics is when people start to analyse your personal life and put it under a microscope.
My apologies for the spelling error above recieve should be spelt as receive.
I have thought about subscribing to the blog of Phillip Adams as it would be good for a stir. Although there are definatley some blogs our there which I would recommend against in terms of your sanity.
"You make sense, have knowledge on what you are talking about and are clearly out of place here." - will you two just get a room, you are making my stomach churn...
Pfft. I give someone a compliment and you get all nauseous? Turn it up!
I like people that have an opinion about politics and actually know what they are talking about. It makes a welcome change to _some_ of the people about the Gold Coast who are capital L Liberals, but who have no idea why... "Daddy says I should vote for them". O.o
Paul Keating was funny. I remember the day that he became Prime Minister. My father was enraptured. "Brendan there's no way that we can loose the next election now. Keating is the most hated man in the country!"
Mmmmmm wrong. The Liberal party managed to find someone who was more disliked that Paul. A pretty impressive effort really.
Anyone wonder why New Zealand is one of the only places where the Australian dollar is any good?
No it isn't anything to do with Johnny's schoolboy fettish for Helen Clarke. I think it might have something to do with our balance of trade payments on that not I am going to grab some caffine now that I have woken from my knap.
Honestly I am putting those ear plugs back on again I cannot believe that people are still going out and getting pissed at this stage in the semester. There obviously not law students.
Women detested Mark Latham I have never been given the finger so many times in a federal election campaign before as we were when we worked on the Mark Latham campaign. I actually had to instruct people to remove any posters with Latham on them from our booth kits or we would have been seriously stuffed. Latham was and still is regarded as a bully boy thug with about as much charm as a common garden slug.
The funniest thing Latham ever said is almost down to me and highway graffiti artist. I was on one of my regular sojourns to the coast and noticed some graffiti on the back of a road sign which simply read:
John Howard = Bonsai Bush
I loved this as it was so Australian and funny and seemed to sum Johnny up very well. Anyhow I told Latham about this and he saw an opportunity the next minute he was referring to Johnny as a Bonsai Bush and even Bob Hawke came out and praised him. Then the Labor Party produced t-shirts with the slogan and a little Johnny as a Bonsai Bush. I think they all sold out.
I was curious about the identity of the political graffiti artist and had a list of suspects.
There is a sad ending to this story though as the political graffiti artist was dyeing of terminal cancer. My understandning is that he was a philosopher.
The relevance of the Latham comment is that he thought Australia should leave the US Alliance and join a strategic defence alliance with New Zealand.
The guy really lost the plot or maybe he never had it. After reading some of his literature and some of his drafts on books he was working on I am inclined to think that he was always a loose cannon.
Have a look at this transcipt from the 7:30 Report where Mark Latham first mentioned the nickname Bonsai Bush. You may also note that Peter Costello commented that Latham didn't know if he was Arthur or Martha. Notice how Latham said "someone told me" rather than saying my name goodness me I missed my 5 minutes of fame!
It is no secret that I have never been a Latham fan and I thought if he couldn't make something out of Bonsai bush that he was a real loser. I think Mark's comments about Bonsai Bush are what earnt him his 5 minutes of fame.
The use of the nickname Bonsai Bush became very popular from this point try having a look on Google.
Labor leadership race too close to call Reporter: Michael Brissenden
KERRY O'BRIEN: Labor in limbo and not sure how to get out.
Welcome to the program.
Federal Labor MPs approach their leadership decision in Canberra tomorrow with a mixture of anger, confusion, even depression, but not a great deal of hope.
The action has almost all been behind closed doors today.
The key strategists for former leader Kim Beazley and first-time challenger Mark Latham both deciding the emotional cauldron of Caucus was too easy to alienate with a public pitch for votes.
As hard as it is to read exactly who's voting where, Kim Beazley is a likely narrow winner ... although as we go to air there may only be a handful of votes in it, with as many as a dozen Caucus members still not declaring their hand.
But as political editor Michael Brissenden reports, after so much bad blood, whoever does win tomorrow will have a tough job convincing the electorate that he'll be leading a united team.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Question time today was an almost surreal affair.
Simon Crean fronted up for a session that was designed to highlight his legacy as leader.
There were a few questions on health, education and detention, but it was as if the House was on pause.
It can't have been easy.
Here he was leading the charge at what is the sharp end of our adversarial political system, knowing he no longer had the confidence of a majority of those sitting behind him.
Even the Government restrained from taking the usual opportunity to rub salt into a Labor wound.
This was about as loud as it got.
MAL BROUGH, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES MINISTER: Something's titillating them over there today, Mr Speaker.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: But while question time dragged on, the real political business of the day continued regardless.
Stephen Smith, Kim Beazley's chief numbers man, could be seen quite openly sifting through the list of Caucus members, ticking names off.
The Beazley camp thinks it now has at least 47 solid votes, enough to win, but it's been the strangest leadership contest, a contest initially without a named challenger and now a fight conducted almost entirely behind closed doors, unusual to say the least among a group of people usually not shy about airing their differences in public.
On the surface, the contest seems almost polite, too polite.
Perhaps it's an indication of just how close it still is.
JOURNALIST: So what do the numbers look like at the moment?
Too close to call?
LAURIE FERGUSON, LATHAM SUPPORTER: Yes.
JOURNALIST: Most say that Beazley is well in front.
LAURIE FERGUSON: You asked me.
I don't care what they say.
It's too close to call.
MARK LATHAM, LEADERSHIP CANDIDATE: I think the country's ready for a new generation of leadership and a better and stronger direction for the future.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: So will it be generational change with a potential loose cannon or back to the future Kevin Rudd, who pulled out of the race over the weekend, says now is the not the time for youthful adventurism.
KEVIN RUDD, SHADOW FOREIGN MINISTER: I'll vote for Kim and the reason is that we are really three, maybe six, months out from an election and I think Kim does have the experience.
Former deputy prime minister, former acting prime minister, former defence minister, to handle the challenges of taking Labor's argument up to John Howard at an election that is just round the corner.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Many in the Crean camp would say that it's a reward for disloyalty.
In a sense they'd be right wouldn't they?
If Kim Beazley gets up again.
KEVIN RUDD: Well, I think disloyalty, treachery, like beauty, lies very much in the eyes of the beholder.
Look, no-one's got a complete clean record of these questions, so let's be honest about it.
Go back to that period between 1998 and 2001 and Mark was very free-ranging in his public and private commentary about Kim's leadership then.
Well, that's all part of the rough and tumble of Labor Party and Australian national politics and since that time it's been not a lot different.
I think the key question is ... who presents the most competent leadership alternative to John Howard in an election which is only a few months away.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Whoever it is, do you think this cycle of disunity, of division, can stop?
KEVIN RUDD: I think it can.
I suppose the authority with which I can speak is someone who has just been on the phone to most members of the parliamentary Labor Party these last few days and the mood that I pick up, right across the place, despite differences and difficulties from the past, is ... for God's sake, let's get on with it.
Let's unite behind the new leader, because there are millions of Australians out there right now, depending on us to be credible, to deliver the alternative policy message to John Howard and to give this next election a decent shake.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Both Kim Beazley and Mark Latham have their merits and as almost every wavering backbencher will privately tell you both have their faults as well.
It may seem Kim Beazley has been around forever, but at 54, he's a full decade younger than the present PM.
Kim Beazley was born into politics.
His father was a minister in the Whitlam government and Kim junior was elected in 1980 at the tender age of 31.
He led a charmed life.
After only two years in Opposition, he held seven portfolios during the Hawke and Keating governments and is best remembered for his six years in defence, where he earned the nickname Bomber Beazley.
He played his politics cleverly.
Although a close supporter of Bob Hawke, he won the deputy PM's job under Paul Keating in 1995.
KIM BEAZLEY: Well, I'm delighted.
absolutely honoured, privileged.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: When the Coalition government won office in 1996, Mr Beazley was the obvious ALP leader, a choice vindicated when Labor almost grabbed an unlikely victory in 1998.
KIM BEAZLEY: This is the biggest number of seats won by a first-term Opposition party in this country ever.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: But in the next term, it all went pear-shaped.
Mr Beazley and his team adopted a small-target strategy hoping to win on the wave of dissatisfaction with the Government.
But when the Tampa steamed over the horizon and the PM flexed his border protection muscles, it was all over.
KIM BEAZLEY: So I bow out of Labor Party history now in gratitude to all of you.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Just 19 months later, he bowed back in, challenging Simon Crean's leadership.
He was easily beaten.
KIM BEAZLEY: I also said this was one challenge, the one challenge I would make.
I said it and I meant it.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: But, of course, this time he is not challenging.
Simon Crean has left the job open to all comers.
In contrast to the sedate Mr Beazley, 42-year-old Mark Latham, as one wag put it today, is the loaded dog.
Political opponents won't let him forget the incident two years ago when he crash tackled a taxi driver after a fare dispute.
And his use of the vernacular has been, well, it's been colourful to say the least.
MARK LATHAM: There they are, a conga line of suckholes on the conservative side of Australian politics.
The back bench sucks up to the PM and the PM sucks up to George W.
I thought it was an arse licking effort in that Australia needed a Prime Minister who was willing to stand up for Australia's best interests.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: A protege of Gough Whitlam and the member for Mr Whitlam's old seat of Werriwa, Mr Latham is no fan of his leadership opponent.
He quit the front bench in 1998 after a policy dispute with Mr Beazley.
When Simon Crean became Labor leader after the last election, he appointed Mr Latham to the key Treasury shadow portfolio, but sometimes he's struggled to put out a consistent message.
PETER COSTELLO, TREASURER: He doesn't know whether he's Arthur or Martha.
The truth is he's both Arthur and Martha, Mr Speaker.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: But while the member for Werriwa's past indiscretions will no doubt provide a cupboardful of ammunition for the Government in the future, he's been working hard recently to tone down the rhetoric and appeal to a younger constituency.
MARK LATHAM: John Howard -- someone was saying he's got a new nickname, Bonsai, because's a little bush.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: In fact, one of the reasons the race is still so close is that Mark Latham's pitch to the younger Caucus members has gone down well.
He's told them he is prepared to listen and that he has a reforming zeal to clean out the policy cupboard.
To recycle Kim Beazley, he says, will send a message to the electorate that nothing's changed.
But it's still the older voters who largely decide the outcome in marginal seats and, in the end, the only arguments about policy and principle those members on less than 5 per cent will be listening to are the ones they think will guarantee they'll still be here this time next year.
And that alone should see Kim Beazley is elected leader tomorrow.
Given you are not a student and seem fairly keen on politics. What attracted you to Gord's blog? (and please don't give me that line about loving blogging).
As Gord said to me the other day politics is addictive. I totally agree with that statement. It is just a matter of deciding where you fit in to the scheme of things.
No Brendan - I didn't call your blog boring. Although I would warn people about some of the ethically unsound blogsites. There is one in particular which is of some noteriety. This particular blogsite is run by a former Bond graduate. The comments from the blogsite are often use by the Parliamentary dirt unit and so on as good old Crikey dot com has become less relevant.
Here you will find updates on anything and everything. One day it could be Bond University, Squash, The Wild Drunk, The Terrible Three, a roasted chicken (or many roasted chickens), The world's greatest hard rock band - AC/DC, North Bay News, Eggs Benedict Radio...you get the picture.
51 Comments:
you are wrong with the world. That boy should shoot you.
Your a sick dude.
you are sick.
Gord - According to Family First the Extreme Greens are what is wrong with the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II7F9L-846s
I cannot be sure but maybe this is what Family First are objecting so strongly to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHImyPthYcA
Thats brilliant! How good is that anti green ad?
Hippies, they want to change the world but all they do is smell bad and look messy.
Thanks Brendan I thought it was pretty good myself. BTW Federal Policitian Peter Garrett who is the former President of the Australian Conservation Foundation and let's not forget his band Midnight Oil was mobbed by Greens in Lygon Street the other day.
In another lifetime I worked for ACF and always used to be accused of being too corporate.
You might note that the OC is now a devotee of the NLA so it looks like I finally have him under my spell. I now await his full confession on his blogsite of course. It would be pretty funny to see Dimberley kicked out of the mansion.
No I am only kidding the OC will never confess to anything not even a Supreme Court Judge.
Dimberley is never likley to confess to what she did either not now that she is living in a certain Melbourne mansion. I was just wishful thinking.
This blog has gone to the dogs! For the love of God... they are talking about the OC.
Save us all and close it now.
Yes Drew on this occassion I agree with you. Mind you some of the OC material is sometimes amusing.
Gordon;
I'm not sure you should post comments on your own blog under anon.
D
That was not Gord it was me
Beyond Blue have recommended against the OC too.
Why are you telling me about Peter Garrett?
He is a clown. Why do people keep thinking that entertainers make good politicians? They don't. They are good spokespeople. Do you know what a spokesperson is? It's someone who talks for an organisation. They get scripts and recite them. Then they get paid. They don't have independent thought and when they do we lambaste them.
So what if he was mobbed on Lygon street. If that is any sign of the quality of leader that you are we seriously need to get the veronicas or some random contestant from Australian idol in Govt quick smart.
Peter Garrett was a good musician, a somewhat scary dancer and a great front man for Midnight Oil. He is not a politician. If Peter Garrett is an example of the future leaders of Australia then I will move.
This kid should be shooting hippies.
The bird seems too difficult. Hippies have no sense of self preservation. They would be much easier to shoot.
I mean they have no natural sense of self preservation anyway. When people turn up to cut trees down the animals LEAVE. But not hippies. They climb the trees. This isn't normal and should be stopped.
Brendan I agree with you about Peter's dancing style it was a bity and I havn't seen him dance recently so I cannot comment on his style overall. Mind you I did see a rather rude little ditty done about Bill Shorten and Beaconsfield.
The reason I referred to Peter Garrett is that I was illustrating the point that you are indeed making that entertainers do not always make the best politicians with a few noted exceptions. Again it is the advertising agency trying to promote a certain image of the Labor Party in inner city Melbourne.
Essentially, Peter Garrett was given the Federal seat which encompasses suburbs like Bondi to prevent some Labor aparachiks from winning it as the former member new that the people in Bondi and Coogee would vote for Peter. Mind you the very erudite old Gough referred to Laurie Brereton the former member as being the most uneduacted spokesman on foriegn affairs that parliament had ever seen.
In relation to independnat though I am always told that you are not allowed to have any. There are formal mechanisms and ways of approaching things. Which is why I have submitted some of my policy proposals through the national policy committee. One of these proposals has also been adopted but as I am only a mere member of the party I am very unlikley to receive any credit for it.
Now we come to the real question who does make a good politician. Well I can tell you that there are many sitting members and people wanting to be pre-selected who are not suited to the job. There are some guys out there who plan their whole careers around being pre-selected and couldn't give a damn about their constituents and the same applies to the women. People tell me that it is all about ego however, I am not sure if this is entirley correct.
Personally, I become really annoyed when poeple tell me that I have to become more involved with groups like XXXXXX List or Network. My philospohy has always been to do what I am interested in and it doesn't involve hanging out with former failed politicians or women with moustaches who want to talk about joining community groups so they can become pre- selected. It shouldn't be impossible to become pre-selected if you have a strong number crucher behind you, campaign money and a local profile.
I made a decision to become a handbag when the going became too tough for me and now I am really beginning to regret it. All of my friends keep telling me that I am just being used by the apparchiks who steal my ideas. Then again I need the apparachiks for their numbers so I can win.
Peter Garrett does not just recite scripts, he writes them as well.
Someone should shoot the kid and the Dad. They should not be allowed to procreate.
Leave hippies alone, just because they care more for a cause then they do about their own preservation does not make them abnormal. It makes them passionate.
Seriously King B after your comments about Xmas I don't trust anything you say.
As a political commentator I observe people at parties and at parliament house. One thing I have noticed is that a lot of females political groupies and politicians always put the Hon Julie Bishop down by making fun of her for being good looking and clever. Maybe some of Julie's opponenets need to smarten themselves up or get out of parliament. In my view Julie is a very astute politician and should be Deputy Leader at the very least.
Brendan - While you may not share many views with Tony Blair have a look at this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7Pn_JLsec
Brendan and the next clip is an example of why you should stay in Australia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGkSxJiQMAg
That clip is brilliant!
Its a good clip. But its no rap cat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdOCJebDyVQ&NR
Brendan - Fertilize the bush and doze in a greeny
To the anon poster who seems to know a bit about Australian politics...
What are you doing posting on Gord's blog? You make sense, have knowledge on what you are talking about and are clearly out of place here.
I became addicted to blogging after a stint on crutches last year. No seriously I enjoy having a healthy exchange with Gord as most of my political counterparts speak to me in a terribly male patronising way. I find one of them who worked for Latham (Mad Mark) particuarly bad. BTW I think all of the members of Beyond Blue would like to be on the sort of pension Latham recieves which is reported to be approximatley 75% of his annual income as Opposition Leader. The thing I don't like about politics is when people start to analyse your personal life and put it under a microscope.
My apologies for the spelling error above recieve should be spelt as receive.
I have thought about subscribing to the blog of Phillip Adams as it would be good for a stir. Although there are definatley some blogs our there which I would recommend against in terms of your sanity.
I would just like to recommend tim Blairs blogsite for a more balanced approach than the OC.
So are you a bond student or were you at some point?
No I am not a Bond student just a prolific blogger.
To quote from Paul Keating the sweetest victory of all is revenge and if you are going to do someone over don't tell anyone not even or mother!
Brendan and the Anonymous Blogger...
"You make sense, have knowledge on what you are talking about and are clearly out of place here." - will you two just get a room, you are making my stomach churn...
what is your blog?
I am not sure I have to speak to someone about that.
Pfft. I give someone a compliment and you get all nauseous? Turn it up!
I like people that have an opinion about politics and actually know what they are talking about. It makes a welcome change to _some_ of the people about the Gold Coast who are capital L Liberals, but who have no idea why... "Daddy says I should vote for them". O.o
Paul Keating was funny. I remember the day that he became Prime Minister. My father was enraptured. "Brendan there's no way that we can loose the next election now. Keating is the most hated man in the country!"
Mmmmmm wrong. The Liberal party managed to find someone who was more disliked that Paul. A pretty impressive effort really.
Mum told us we had to go and live in New Zealand .. but we are still here... (in the arse end of the world) :(
Anyone wonder why New Zealand is one of the only places where the Australian dollar is any good?
No it isn't anything to do with Johnny's schoolboy fettish for Helen Clarke. I think it might have something to do with our balance of trade payments on that not I am going to grab some caffine now that I have woken from my knap.
Honestly I am putting those ear plugs back on again I cannot believe that people are still going out and getting pissed at this stage in the semester. There obviously not law students.
Women detested Mark Latham I have never been given the finger so many times in a federal election campaign before as we were when we worked on the Mark Latham campaign. I actually had to instruct people to remove any posters with Latham on them from our booth kits or we would have been seriously stuffed. Latham was and still is regarded as a bully boy thug with about as much charm as a common garden slug.
The funniest thing Latham ever said is almost down to me and highway graffiti artist. I was on one of my regular sojourns to the coast and noticed some graffiti on the back of a road sign which simply read:
John Howard = Bonsai Bush
I loved this as it was so Australian and funny and seemed to sum Johnny up very well. Anyhow I told Latham about this and he saw an opportunity the next minute he was referring to Johnny as a Bonsai Bush and even Bob Hawke came out and praised him. Then the Labor Party produced t-shirts with the slogan and a little Johnny as a Bonsai Bush. I think they all sold out.
I was curious about the identity of the political graffiti artist and had a list of suspects.
There is a sad ending to this story though as the political graffiti artist was dyeing of terminal cancer. My understandning is that he was a philosopher.
The relevance of the Latham comment is that he thought Australia should leave the US Alliance and join a strategic defence alliance with New Zealand.
The guy really lost the plot or maybe he never had it. After reading some of his literature and some of his drafts on books he was working on I am inclined to think that he was always a loose cannon.
Have a look at this transcipt from the 7:30 Report where Mark Latham first mentioned the nickname Bonsai Bush. You may also note that Peter Costello commented that Latham didn't know if he was Arthur or Martha. Notice how Latham said "someone told me" rather than saying my name goodness me I missed my 5 minutes of fame!
It is no secret that I have never been a Latham fan and I thought if he couldn't make something out of Bonsai bush that he was a real loser. I think Mark's comments about Bonsai Bush are what earnt him his 5 minutes of fame.
The use of the nickname Bonsai Bush became very popular from this point try having a look on Google.
Labor leadership race too close to call
Reporter: Michael Brissenden
KERRY O'BRIEN: Labor in limbo and not sure how to get out.
Welcome to the program.
Federal Labor MPs approach their leadership decision in Canberra tomorrow with a mixture of anger, confusion, even depression, but not a great deal of hope.
The action has almost all been behind closed doors today.
The key strategists for former leader Kim Beazley and first-time challenger Mark Latham both deciding the emotional cauldron of Caucus was too easy to alienate with a public pitch for votes.
As hard as it is to read exactly who's voting where, Kim Beazley is a likely narrow winner ... although as we go to air there may only be a handful of votes in it, with as many as a dozen Caucus members still not declaring their hand.
But as political editor Michael Brissenden reports, after so much bad blood, whoever does win tomorrow will have a tough job convincing the electorate that he'll be leading a united team.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Question time today was an almost surreal affair.
Simon Crean fronted up for a session that was designed to highlight his legacy as leader.
There were a few questions on health, education and detention, but it was as if the House was on pause.
It can't have been easy.
Here he was leading the charge at what is the sharp end of our adversarial political system, knowing he no longer had the confidence of a majority of those sitting behind him.
Even the Government restrained from taking the usual opportunity to rub salt into a Labor wound.
This was about as loud as it got.
MAL BROUGH, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES MINISTER: Something's titillating them over there today, Mr Speaker.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: But while question time dragged on, the real political business of the day continued regardless.
Stephen Smith, Kim Beazley's chief numbers man, could be seen quite openly sifting through the list of Caucus members, ticking names off.
The Beazley camp thinks it now has at least 47 solid votes, enough to win, but it's been the strangest leadership contest, a contest initially without a named challenger and now a fight conducted almost entirely behind closed doors, unusual to say the least among a group of people usually not shy about airing their differences in public.
On the surface, the contest seems almost polite, too polite.
Perhaps it's an indication of just how close it still is.
JOURNALIST: So what do the numbers look like at the moment?
Too close to call?
LAURIE FERGUSON, LATHAM SUPPORTER: Yes.
JOURNALIST: Most say that Beazley is well in front.
LAURIE FERGUSON: You asked me.
I don't care what they say.
It's too close to call.
MARK LATHAM, LEADERSHIP CANDIDATE: I think the country's ready for a new generation of leadership and a better and stronger direction for the future.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: So will it be generational change with a potential loose cannon or back to the future Kevin Rudd, who pulled out of the race over the weekend, says now is the not the time for youthful adventurism.
KEVIN RUDD, SHADOW FOREIGN MINISTER: I'll vote for Kim and the reason is that we are really three, maybe six, months out from an election and I think Kim does have the experience.
Former deputy prime minister, former acting prime minister, former defence minister, to handle the challenges of taking Labor's argument up to John Howard at an election that is just round the corner.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Many in the Crean camp would say that it's a reward for disloyalty.
In a sense they'd be right wouldn't they?
If Kim Beazley gets up again.
KEVIN RUDD: Well, I think disloyalty, treachery, like beauty, lies very much in the eyes of the beholder.
Look, no-one's got a complete clean record of these questions, so let's be honest about it.
Go back to that period between 1998 and 2001 and Mark was very free-ranging in his public and private commentary about Kim's leadership then.
Well, that's all part of the rough and tumble of Labor Party and Australian national politics and since that time it's been not a lot different.
I think the key question is ... who presents the most competent leadership alternative to John Howard in an election which is only a few months away.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Whoever it is, do you think this cycle of disunity, of division, can stop?
KEVIN RUDD: I think it can.
I suppose the authority with which I can speak is someone who has just been on the phone to most members of the parliamentary Labor Party these last few days and the mood that I pick up, right across the place, despite differences and difficulties from the past, is ... for God's sake, let's get on with it.
Let's unite behind the new leader, because there are millions of Australians out there right now, depending on us to be credible, to deliver the alternative policy message to John Howard and to give this next election a decent shake.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Both Kim Beazley and Mark Latham have their merits and as almost every wavering backbencher will privately tell you both have their faults as well.
It may seem Kim Beazley has been around forever, but at 54, he's a full decade younger than the present PM.
Kim Beazley was born into politics.
His father was a minister in the Whitlam government and Kim junior was elected in 1980 at the tender age of 31.
He led a charmed life.
After only two years in Opposition, he held seven portfolios during the Hawke and Keating governments and is best remembered for his six years in defence, where he earned the nickname Bomber Beazley.
He played his politics cleverly.
Although a close supporter of Bob Hawke, he won the deputy PM's job under Paul Keating in 1995.
KIM BEAZLEY: Well, I'm delighted.
absolutely honoured, privileged.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: When the Coalition government won office in 1996, Mr Beazley was the obvious ALP leader, a choice vindicated when Labor almost grabbed an unlikely victory in 1998.
KIM BEAZLEY: This is the biggest number of seats won by a first-term Opposition party in this country ever.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: But in the next term, it all went pear-shaped.
Mr Beazley and his team adopted a small-target strategy hoping to win on the wave of dissatisfaction with the Government.
But when the Tampa steamed over the horizon and the PM flexed his border protection muscles, it was all over.
KIM BEAZLEY: So I bow out of Labor Party history now in gratitude to all of you.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Just 19 months later, he bowed back in, challenging Simon Crean's leadership.
He was easily beaten.
KIM BEAZLEY: I also said this was one challenge, the one challenge I would make.
I said it and I meant it.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: But, of course, this time he is not challenging.
Simon Crean has left the job open to all comers.
In contrast to the sedate Mr Beazley, 42-year-old Mark Latham, as one wag put it today, is the loaded dog.
Political opponents won't let him forget the incident two years ago when he crash tackled a taxi driver after a fare dispute.
And his use of the vernacular has been, well, it's been colourful to say the least.
MARK LATHAM: There they are, a conga line of suckholes on the conservative side of Australian politics.
The back bench sucks up to the PM and the PM sucks up to George W.
I thought it was an arse licking effort in that Australia needed a Prime Minister who was willing to stand up for Australia's best interests.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: A protege of Gough Whitlam and the member for Mr Whitlam's old seat of Werriwa, Mr Latham is no fan of his leadership opponent.
He quit the front bench in 1998 after a policy dispute with Mr Beazley.
When Simon Crean became Labor leader after the last election, he appointed Mr Latham to the key Treasury shadow portfolio, but sometimes he's struggled to put out a consistent message.
PETER COSTELLO, TREASURER: He doesn't know whether he's Arthur or Martha.
The truth is he's both Arthur and Martha, Mr Speaker.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: But while the member for Werriwa's past indiscretions will no doubt provide a cupboardful of ammunition for the Government in the future, he's been working hard recently to tone down the rhetoric and appeal to a younger constituency.
MARK LATHAM: John Howard -- someone was saying he's got a new nickname, Bonsai, because's a little bush.
MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: In fact, one of the reasons the race is still so close is that Mark Latham's pitch to the younger Caucus members has gone down well.
He's told them he is prepared to listen and that he has a reforming zeal to clean out the policy cupboard.
To recycle Kim Beazley, he says, will send a message to the electorate that nothing's changed.
But it's still the older voters who largely decide the outcome in marginal seats and, in the end, the only arguments about policy and principle those members on less than 5 per cent will be listening to are the ones they think will guarantee they'll still be here this time next year.
And that alone should see Kim Beazley is elected leader tomorrow.
Given you are not a student and seem fairly keen on politics. What attracted you to Gord's blog? (and please don't give me that line about loving blogging).
Yes I am a student here and talk to Gord a bit about politics. Some of the other blogs around are just boring and this seemed like fun.
As Gord said to me the other day politics is addictive. I totally agree with that statement. It is just a matter of deciding where you fit in to the scheme of things.
Hang on... Did you just call my blog boring?
I think that Drew and I are gently hinting at when are you going to come and comment on a real blog. ;)
No Brendan - I didn't call your blog boring. Although I would warn people about some of the ethically unsound blogsites. There is one in particular which is of some noteriety. This particular blogsite is run by a former Bond graduate. The comments from the blogsite are often use by the Parliamentary dirt unit and so on as good old Crikey dot com has become less relevant.
oh, that's ok then. :)
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Gee... that comment must have been good ... pity this one isn't.
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